Interview with Maria
Maria is a 31-year-old teacher who has kinesiology sessions to heal her chronic fatigue.
A: Maria, can you recall a session with P? What sense did you have about the procedure, lying on the table and your arm being muscle tested?
M: So, you basically want to know what was the essence for me with muscle testing?
M: What was important for me is the trust that my body knows. That there are things in my body, secrets in my body, that muscle testing can tap and I can connect to my brain. There is a difference between my body knowing about illnesses and certain upsets of the body and the preconceived knowing from my brain what was going on. Bypassing my brain and going straight to my body through muscle testing gives me answers to questions and I find out lots of things, information about my body, that was not available to me in my conscious mind.
A: So you feel that the muscle tests access something which you cannot access with your mind?
M: Yeah, you could say that. It’s there, but I cannot tap it and I guess the muscle testing was a way to tap it directly. I mean, I’m sure I could get to it myself because that was why I went to P. I felt in my body that there were things disturbing me and I tried to sit and meditate to find the answers. But it was really clear that I needed help in accessing that information. I wanted to access that information. By muscle testing I could do it.
A: Do you think with the muscle test you can access information quicker than just sitting and meditating on it? Or what does muscle testing give you?
M: Well, I have a very strong mind and I have a very strong stubbornness about how I think things are. So how I think about what is wrong with me, like my worries or anxiety, dominates my whole perception of that. When I have muscle testing it bypasses this mental anxiety. What’s wrong, what’s happening... that sort of anxiety that then blocks the issue of the information that my body needs to have.
A: Do you think that being muscle tested enhances your perception of your own reality?
M: Well, it makes me see very clearly that what I think is going on is not actually what’s going on. For example, P asked me what my attitude was to get healthy. She asked me that question: what’s my commitment to getting well in the lower part of my body because that’s where I was working on at the time? I thought that I had a very good intention to the problem and I was ready to get healthy very quickly. Then she muscle tested me and my willingness to get well was only forty percent. That was what my body was saying and, at the same time, my mind was saying: “No problem”, but my body was saying: “Something is interfering with your willingness to get well”. So that was one example of how my mind was perceiving things differently.
And then we tested the next week and I got my one hundred percent, and there was a line between really wanting to get well and my body saying: “Yes, this person really wants to get well”. I really felt it in my body this time. I really felt the determination to get well whereas, before, I thought I had the determination to get well but it wasn’t really a body sense.
A: Do you think the results of the muscle tests help you to see what direction you need to go?
M: Yeah, it gives a lot of direction and a lot of insight into what is really going on in my body, and to my attitude, to my emotionality and to my physicality. And I have been tested about a lot of different levels of my energetic body, my physical body, my emotional body, etcetera.
A: Do you think it accesses intuitive knowledge you have?
M: Yes, very much.
A: How would you describe what is accessed when the muscles go weak or strong. What part of your being would that be?
M: Well, I think the body has its own voice. And I think when one is really stubborn and stuck with ideas, then the body has a space to speak up about what’s really happening. The body’s voice... basically, that is what muscle testing accesses, this body voice. What it needs, what it doesn’t need. I think when one is rigid with ideas of how things should be, then that voice will become strong, and if one knows this voice more and more, you can get in tune with yourself, in tune with this voice.
A: So would you say muscle testing is a communication tool for you with yourself?
M: Well, I couldn’t do it myself. That is why I went to somebody else because I needed that other person to access that voice. So it was very much a communication with that voice, a commitment of being well, how the body is feeling at that point in time.
A: Have you been muscle tested by someone else as well?
M: Yeah, I have, actually — two other people, because I have a very bad curvature of the spine, scoliosis, and I have done a fair bit of work with two different practitioners. One gave me a scoliosis test which was an hour and a half of absolute muscle testing of my body, and another one was a chiropractor.
A: When you now look back to those sessions, what do you think is the muscle testing giving you in relation to the therapists using the muscle test?
M: I always think muscle testing is accessing me. Muscle tests bring the therapist more in contact with me, what I need, and there is an easiness about it.
A: When you go into a room to be muscle tested, how do you receive the procedure? Do you think... is that OK for you or is it invasive?
M: Well, it very much depends on who does it. I don’t think anyone who gives you a therapy will make you always comfortable with it. P does it very softly, very intuitively and very sweetly whereas I had one guy who did muscle tests just the opposite: very, very rough, very full on, very invasive. He was the one that did the scoliosis tests for me. He was always getting my mind to do things, look left, right, look up, down. He wanted me to do things all the time, so the brain didn’t get a hold of this thing that’s going on and work it all out. He was saying this way the brain doesn’t know what’s going on. You’re by-passing the brain and just working with my body.
By the end of it, I didn’t know what was up and what was down but I also trusted that he was very into what he was doing and was very precise. He was rough, he was tough. But I just thought: “Put all that aside and trust; he knows what he’s doing. He knows about scoliosis and I really need his help.” He was invasive in his approach and very different from P.
A:Well, were those muscle tests beneficial as well?
M: Yeah, about three days after that I got an incredible pain in my spine, more than I ever had, and then it went. It was a very intense pain and I felt he had moved something very deep. It changed my body. He used to treat me very radically but it changed my body. So it was very different to P, even though the techniques are similar. A whole different approach; I couldn’t really compare them.
A: Do you trust the results of a muscle test when you are tested?
M: At first I didn’t. I can remember one funny thing happening to me. P muscle tested my body for nutrition — things and teas I needed to get better. She told me that I needed this particular type of tea and the next time I came back she muscle tested for all the things she had given to me if they were working in my body.
She said to me: “This is working, this is working, but this tea that I gave you, is not in your body yet. Your body is not registering this tea”. “Well”, I said, “P, I have to confess I haven’t taken it”. She said: “Well, if you’re going to come to me to get treatment, then you really have to follow through what the body is telling us.” And the body was asking for this tea I didn’t like the taste of. But that was so obvious what my body was saying that I said to myself: “OK, I really trust my body and if my body says it needs this, then I take it”.
A: Looking back, do you think that it was beneficial to trust the muscle test?
M: Oh yes, especially a lot of nutritional information, not so much emotional things at the time, the vitamins and minerals and what I shouldn’t eat and what I should eat. For example, I was constipated and I kept quite a strict diet. But the tests showed that soy milk was bad and that was why I was getting constipated. I dropped the soy milk and I felt much better. So, I have had immediate results. And taking the minerals was very good because I usually get quite sick by changes of temperature and rainy days, but this time, because I’m on this program taking what my body said it needed, I haven’t got sick, which is quite something for me.
A: So do you think the muscle test has helped you to be more aware of your body and its needs?
M: Yeah, sure, very much so. Now I’m very aware of what is going on in my body, what attitudes I have, how I look at my body and what deficiencies I have in my body. The muscle tests really access information and then I can act on that information to do what I need to do to keep me healthy. Yes, it is directive for me. I can feel: If I do this, my body gets depleted and, well, if I do this, it strengthens the body.
A: Do you think the muscle test accesses this information in a quick and efficient way?
M: Well, you see, this muscle test, especially with P, was very specific. You know, you can’t eat this, you can eat that. But I have never been to a naturopath and I don’t know enough about nutrition for a start, so I don’t know.
A: Feeling your body respond. How was that for you? Feeling your muscles getting weak or strong?
M: Well, I have always been weak and it is now for the last six months that I have done a lot of healing—it is not just muscle testing, I have done a lot of different things—and now it is starting to come together. I’m getting stronger and stronger and more energetic. So it is a real breakthrough. I was always getting colds because I have this scoliosis right on my chest and that deformity is really restricting my breathing and weakening my lungs.
A: What is the most important aspect for you being muscle tested?
M: I think people need to have experience that the body is really talking and feel the difference between when the mind talks its ideas and when the body talks. The body says: “I need this, this is a mess”, and they can see the difference and feel that the body knows. What the body has on information is never really accessed.
A: Do you think muscle testing is also educational?
M: Oh yes, very educational. It gives you information about what the body needs. It is showing you another reality than what the mind thinks.
A: Does it enhance your perception of reality?
M: Well, I think there is a reality like what the body needs, like I was saying before, and then there is the reality what I think my body needs. That is a reality but it is not necessarily the reality of my body. Muscle testing just gets you in tune with your body and gives you a very good relationship to your body, how to look after your body, how to care for your body, where to start and give it what it wants.
I trust that the body can get well, no matter what diseases or what things are in the way. That it will get well, if you take care of your body when you’re sick. When you’re used to the old, traditional way and your problems don’t get less, you are looking for other ways to get better. When I see my body reacting and I don’t know how to do anything else, that’s for most people very educational. I was willing to try something else and I trusted the person doing the muscle test.
A: So the muscle test is a guidance of how to slowly change your body?
M: Yeah, very much. And you know, it is also really to trust the body that it knows and to let it speak; relax, let your mind go and let the body speak, tell you what it needs.
A: Then you can act on it or not?
M: Yeah, then I have a choice. In that example of the tea, my body was saying: “Take it” and then I didn’t take it. But the body was still asking for it, still wanting it, when I was tested later.
A: Thank you for the interview.
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